Who are our enemies?

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Who are our enemies?

Peter
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The idea that all of modernity are our enemies seems too broad. Who are our enemies specifically?

George Soros?
Hollywood?
The LGBTQ mob?
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R.C. Christian
Certain businessmen who have the power to control civilization on a large scale. It's probably like a pyramid where only the top ones own the privilege to actually issue money, give orders to and influence governments, start wars, create and spread diseases etc. The less control one has in the pyramid, the less they know as well. As for whether these people are the infamous Illuminati or something else, I have no idea. But going by just observing how human hierarchic systems work, the above seems likely.

The ones who are known by their names are probably quite low rank in the pyramid, including Musk, Soros, Hollywood producers or politicians. And even they have tremendous power.

These people have above average intelligence, but not highly gifted, they are not near genius level. They are in the zone of Cluster B personality disorders, and are probably bored as well.
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Allen
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Our enemies are the global elite. Some say that corresponds to the Jewish establishment, but maybe they are more second tier. The evil of the modern world seems to have started with a commercial view of the world personified by second string English nobility, Dutch merchants, Italian banking houses and such like and then proceeded from there. All the little maggots you mention are their employees.
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fschmidt
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Why is it too broad?  Both the Old Testament and Quran teach that societies can become completely rotten, and individuals are never blamed for this.  Humans are tribal.  When a society goes bad, all of its members become enemies of the good.
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Allen
Except that it isn't the whole of modernity funding the evil and directing goons to attack people.
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OmegaKV
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The guys who took over and ruined the Baha'i community were Rockefeller Foundation employees, as public records show. So this is an enemy I have in common with white nationalists, and probably a common enemy of many people.
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fschmidt
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All religions that have failed to resist modern culture have failed.  The details don't matter.  No religion that doesn't keep its children off the internet has a meaningful future.
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Peter
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fschmidt wrote
Why is it too broad? ….individuals are never blamed for this.  Humans are tribal.  When a society goes bad, all of its members become enemies of the good.
Then can you be more specific on which tribes are our enemies? Give specific examples. Liberals? Feminists?

Menonnites and Muslims, for example, are NOT our enemies
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fschmidt
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Modern culture is the (big) tribe that is our enemy.  Conservative Mennonites and conservative Muslims are not part of modern culture, so are not our enemies.  Liberal Mennonites and liberal Muslims are part of modern culture, so are our enemies.
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Peter
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Okay that fine with the liberal Muslims and Mennonites. But the idea of “big tribe” modern culture are our enemies is too much of an abstract idea. Does it imply the average person is our enemy?
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fschmidt
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Yes, the average person is our worst enemy (like in the story of Noah).  Worse than the global elite, worse than any businessman.  It is the stupidity and bad values of average people that makes modern life intolerable.
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R.C. Christian
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Peter wrote
Does it imply the average person is our enemy?
Bingo. Not so much individually, but when manipulated into all kinds of different crowds, they are like a weapon. That's the main purpose of the internet and mobile phones.

Check out Gustave Le Bon's "The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind" if you haven't already on how crowds work.
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